In this podcast Karen O’Brien talks Marco Van Hout and Carola Verschoor about what matters, what is equatable, and what is sustainable.
Listen to the podcast here:
Some key takeaways from the conversation:
🎤 We are being challenged on all fronts today and it’s easy to think about what problem to prioritize, but from my perspective it is just one big problem: a relationship problem.
🎤 When we start to realize that ‘how we show up in the moment’ really matters, we can really start having a much bigger impact on the systems, the structures and the way we have organized society.
🎤 We talk a lot about agency, and when I think about that, I like to see ourselves as ‘fractals’: we are the systems, we are the collective, we are not separate.